Datum: onsdag 14 januari 2009 11:20
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> Hans_Georg1
> Most of my messages, maybe some of yours, are not limited in value to the time when written. I have contacted MSN Groups to find out what, if anything, will be deleted or inaccessible for consultation when the groups close down in february: messages? photos? personnalised pages? My "photos"=scans of compositions have, in the main, been saved to the blog musicalia and some messages are being transferred already to other blogs on same profile. Would you like to help me out? Hans G. Lundahl
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> Hans_Georg1
> Amélie repond
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> Multiply was already tried for my smaller group, it did NOT transfer even all those messages.
Från:
> Hans_Georg1
> In other words MSN is depriving me of my writings. You know well, they are not just the "history of our fellowship", indeed when I started writing many of you were not even members.
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> They are my writings. Sub specie æternitatis it may matter little for me whether they survive or not, but if I have to live long yet on this earth, I prefer not to have my claim to literary art and philosophic science flushed down the toilet.
> Hans G Lundahl
Från:
> Hans_Georg1
> I have tried the comb function of webcitation.org - even when using the url of a page within the message boerds, I cannot get the message urls combed. The nearly five hundred fifty threads (all boards together) have to be saved one by one, except for those having more than fifteen or sixteen messages, where it is necessary to first click to see beginning of thread, then save that url, then click to see end of thread and then save that url.
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Safeguard of similar request, linked in, dialogue with someone I found was a free mason:
http://hglundahlsblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/handicapped-by-free-mason-genuine.html (example)
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I think all of my above request was quite polite, and would have merited assistance by Christians - especially Catholic or Orthodox ones - interested in my well-being on earth and not only my salvation. It was not met. I also think my description of how to do it was - for the time when MSN Groups existed, now it is too late to try - quite clear./HGL
My deal now can be read on http://shrt.st/ujx. French synonym a few lines further up same page. Links to a how-to-do for printing real printing sheets on A3 photocopies, if you can get double paged such.
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So was there anything worth printing and saving, is there anything worth printing (or, for music, playing) now? 44 blog posts have made it singly into more than 100 views, I have no statistics for how many have been viewed on main pages or archive pages or search word pages or search label pages.
Most read pages and messages, excluding pure index pages (stats from Easter Week 2011)
And this is what countries the blogs have been read in:
Lectorat international pour mes blogs ... (Stats from sept 10-11 2010)
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In case anyone thinks he was spammed back then, there was an option not to join the group, there was an option how often to receive messages from it or not to receive them but regard messages online. I am afraid those options - announced under each message - were in Swedish, thus incomprehensible to French or English group members, but there is a difference between negligence and deliberate spamming, here are the options as announced:
Från:
> Hans_Georg1
> Most of my messages, maybe some of yours, are not limited in value to the time when written. I have contacted MSN Groups to find out what, if anything, will be deleted or inaccessible for consultation when the groups close down in february: messages? photos? personnalised pages? My "photos"=scans of compositions have, in the main, been saved to the blog musicalia and some messages are being transferred already to other blogs on same profile. Would you like to help me out? Hans G. Lundahl
Från:
> Hans_Georg1
> Amélie repond
> Chère utilisatrice, cher utilisateur,
> Merci d'avoir contacté le service de support de MSN Groups.
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> Je m'appelle Amelie et votre problème pour savoir ce qu'il va se passer pour votre groupe après la fermeture de MSN Groupes a retenu mon attention. Je vous présente mes excuses pour les désagréments que ceci a pu vous causer. Le service MSN Groups fermera le 21 février 2009 et vous aurez la possibilité de transférer votre groupe chez notre nouveau service partenaire, Multiply. Nous comprenons l'importance de conserver votre groupe intact et c'est la raison pour laquelle nous sommes entrés en partenariat avec Multiply pour vous permettre de transférer votre groupe à leur service tout en conservant votre communauté en ligne et son histoire.
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> La raison pour laquelle nous avons pris cette décision si difficile de fermer le service MSN Groups est que nous promettons à nos clients les services les plus récents et conviviaux en matière de technologie de nos jours. Cette décision fait partie d'un investissement général pour mettre à jour et redéfinir nos services en ligne avec Windows Live. A long terme, nous pensons que cette décision de fermer ce service est la meilleure façon pour nous de continuer à offrir des services innovateurs et de dernier cri qui vous permettrons de rester en contact avec les personnes qui vous sont chères.
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> Nous avons l'intention de lancer un nouveau service Groups dans les prochaines semaines mais, contrairement à MSN Groups, Windows Live Groups se focalisera à offrir un service à des petits groupes souhaitant collaborer. Multiply est un service disponible en ce moment, vous offrant la meilleure possibilité au jour d'aujourd'hui pour continuer à partager et communiquer ensemble sur Internet. Ci-dessous, vous trouverez une liste de possibilités et ressources disponibles pour vous aider à vous décider sur l'avenir de votre groupe.
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> 1ère option : Transférer automatiquement votre groupe et ses données.
> Nous avons créé un partenariat avec Multiply, un service de groupe et d'échanges médiatiques sur Internet donc nos utilisateurs peuvent décider de transférer leurs groupes aux services de Multiply. Choisir cette option est gratuite et facile d'utilisation : Multiply transférera les données complètes du Groupe en question pour vous et invitera ses membres à rejoindre votre groupe à son nouvel emplacement. Pour débuter le transfert, cliquez ici.
> 2ème option : Recommencer avec un autre service.
> Vous pouvez repartir à zéro et créer un groupe avec un service différent mais nous vous recommandons de transférer automatiquement votre groupe avec Multiply. Cela permettra à votre groupe de faire la transition facilement et de vous permettre d'apprécier la communauté que vous avez créée.
> 3ème option : Windows Live Groups.
> Pour continuer l'expansion des services joints de communication et de partage, Windows Live lancera un nouveau service cet automne, Windows Live Groups. Nous espérons lancer Windows Live Groups pour le public dans les prochaines semaines en tant que service qui aidera les petits groupes et clubs à collaborer sur Internet.
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> Merci d'utiliser MSN Groups. N'hésitez pas à nous recontacter pour plus de renseignements.
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> Nous vous souhaitons une bonne année 2009.
> Amelie
> Service de support de MSN Groups.
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> Multiply was already tried for my smaller group, it did NOT transfer even all those messages.
Från:
> Hans_Georg1
> In other words MSN is depriving me of my writings. You know well, they are not just the "history of our fellowship", indeed when I started writing many of you were not even members.
>
> They are my writings. Sub specie æternitatis it may matter little for me whether they survive or not, but if I have to live long yet on this earth, I prefer not to have my claim to literary art and philosophic science flushed down the toilet.
> Hans G Lundahl
Från:
> Hans_Georg1
> I have tried the comb function of webcitation.org - even when using the url of a page within the message boerds, I cannot get the message urls combed. The nearly five hundred fifty threads (all boards together) have to be saved one by one, except for those having more than fifteen or sixteen messages, where it is necessary to first click to see beginning of thread, then save that url, then click to see end of thread and then save that url.
==========================
Safeguard of similar request, linked in, dialogue with someone I found was a free mason:
http://hglundahlsblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/handicapped-by-free-mason-genuine.html (example)
===========================
I think all of my above request was quite polite, and would have merited assistance by Christians - especially Catholic or Orthodox ones - interested in my well-being on earth and not only my salvation. It was not met. I also think my description of how to do it was - for the time when MSN Groups existed, now it is too late to try - quite clear./HGL
My deal now can be read on http://shrt.st/ujx. French synonym a few lines further up same page. Links to a how-to-do for printing real printing sheets on A3 photocopies, if you can get double paged such.
===========================
So was there anything worth printing and saving, is there anything worth printing (or, for music, playing) now? 44 blog posts have made it singly into more than 100 views, I have no statistics for how many have been viewed on main pages or archive pages or search word pages or search label pages.
Most read pages and messages, excluding pure index pages (stats from Easter Week 2011)
And this is what countries the blogs have been read in:
Lectorat international pour mes blogs ... (Stats from sept 10-11 2010)
===========================
In case anyone thinks he was spammed back then, there was an option not to join the group, there was an option how often to receive messages from it or not to receive them but regard messages online. I am afraid those options - announced under each message - were in Swedish, thus incomprehensible to French or English group members, but there is a difference between negligence and deliberate spamming, here are the options as announced:
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